The Last Podcast by Zac Little

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Jan 18, 2020

The boys are back for another episode of BRIGHT EYES FULL HEARTS CAN'T LOSE to discuss the singles for "Lua" and "Take It Easy (Love Nothing)" which went to #1 and #2 simultaneously on the Billboard Charts on November 13th, 2004. (Conor Oberst had recently wrapped up touring in support of John Kerry, along with Bruce Springsteen and R.E.M.)

In today's episode, we talk about some of our favorite songs, albums, TV shows and movies from 2019, as well as the concerts we attended together. 

There's also brief installments of the subpodcasts ARE YE TALKIN ARCADE FIRE IN MAY and ALL EARS ALL EYES ALL THE TIME. 

Thanks for listening!

Jan 3, 2020

Happy New Year, everybody. 

TLPZL has a hotline now: Call 978-566-1704 and leave messages with questions and or comments. 

Nov 18, 2019

w/ George Barber, Genevieve Aichele, Morgan Little & Aidan from Spain. 

Theme music: "King Sham" by Morgan Little

Oct 31, 2019

Featuring: Mackenzie Keefe, Morgan Little, Malikah McHerrin-Cobb, Jon Pernisek, The Spoon, Max Wallace, Sarah Wrightsman, Steve Hedlund, Becky Holt, & George Barber

Oct 24, 2019

Hey everybody!

Today's episode is a new subpodcast for The Last Podcast, one that is produced in association with the New Hampshire Theatre Podcast. It's kind of new and we're still figuring it out. Not even sure if the name will stick! But it is a show about using art to create social change. Sometimes it might be connected to a current theatrical production, but sometimes it might not be! Like I said, still figuring it out. 

A normal episode of TLPZL is coming very soon!

THE NICETIES closes this weekend. 

Sep 10, 2019

Bright Eyes, Full Hearts, Can't Lose is a subpodcast of The Last Podcast in which Zac and his brother Morgan discuss the discography of Conor Oberst, the most important artist of our lives. 

Today's episode is long, kind of badly recorded, wandering, and full of emotional and political details. It's about I'm Wide Awake, It's Morning, the best Bright Eyes album ever made. We are joined by Mackenzie and Tyler, our friends from the band The Meltdowns, who bring a different perspective to the proceedings. 

Join us as we analyze 9/11, wonder about Watergate, explore our past relationships with women and each other, play a game about ABBA, and much, much more. 

Aug 31, 2019

Hey gang -- I wanted to re-post this episode because it was a little too loud as originally uploaded, causing the audio to click rather annoyingly in some speakers/headphones. I don't know if anyone noticed other than me, but I will feel better having corrected this. OK, new episode soon! Bye!

Today's episode is about the power of theater. 

Follow the NHTP on instagram:

Mackenzie Keefe's bandcamp page:



Jun 25, 2019

Portions of this episode originally appeared on WSCA Portsmouth Community Radio. Thank you Dan and Phil.

Recorded March 2018 - June 2019

Special thanks to Christi Little for invaluable editing advice, and Lizzy Goodman for unknowingly suggesting a format.

Jun 13, 2019

The audio mostly gets choppy around big laughs. The rest of it is OK. But I also talk fast, so I would recommend reading along, just in case:



May 14, 2019

Today's ep is a direct sequel to the last one, "Systemic Understanding." We talk to Sarah Wrightsman, the Executive Director of the Workforce Housing Coalition of the Greater Seacoast. We also talk to Steven Hedlund and Becky Holt of the Global Aquaculture Alliance, and check back in with Elena Piekut, assistant city planner in NH's only city doing anything right, Dover NH. 

We cover a lot of ground in this one, but really, it's about one question: how do you know that what you're doing is working?

Shoutout to my pal Fred Balas, who tipped me off to Sarah's many acronyms. 


Apr 23, 2019

Communities & Consequences (I) - a film by Jay Childs

Music in this ep by Mackenzie Keefe (interlude), Morgan Little (organ), and Zac Little (variations on 'werewolves of london')

Many thanks to Lori-Waltz Gagnon & Leadership Seacoast, Peter Francese, & Elena Piekut



Apr 9, 2019

Today's episode is about endings, but also about beginnings, and holidays, and social media, and the Old Internet, and the Chef's Table, and Arlo's musical preferences, and La Blogotheque, and creative crises/depressive episodes (I have a hard time telling the difference).

Thanks for listening. The plan is to have a new episode ready every two weeks for a couple of months. 

Feb 19, 2019

Morgan's playlist:

Zac's playlist:


In today's episode, Morgan and Zac talk about OH HOLY FOOLS and ONE JUG OF WINE, TWO VESSELS -- probably the two albums they eached looked most forward to discussing, respectively, when this podcast started. They also decide, with 90% certainty, who is singing in "We Are Free Men," and then start a new religion based on the teachings of David Bowie.


Other topic include:

-Michael Pollan's show "Cooked"

-Black Mirror's "Bandersnatch"

-Paul Rust's bass guitar skillz

-Mac Miller (again)

-Cover songs they like

-Why it's OK to not know a song is cover

-Oboards, the Conor Oberst Reddit Board

-James Gunn

-What makes a song good for jamming

-Why "City Morgan" no longer wishes to "fuck" people

-Why Louis CK doesn't deserve another shot

-The Other Morgan Little

-How much it still sucks that Elliott Smith is dead

-A lot of stuff about drums and drummers

-Pedro The Lion's famous bassist


Thanks for listening!

Dec 4, 2018

Morgan and I discussed Mac Miller in this episode, but felt like we didn't do a good job, so we returned to the subject later in the episode, and still left feeling like we didn't do a good job. It's a difficult subject, and there are no right answers, and at the time we didn't even know that Mac Miller has, for instance, covered a Bright Eyes song! So we'll probably talk about it again on the next episode. I just wanted to say that in case you felt like we were being flip about his death. (I will say that compared to the way Ariana Grande fans talk on instagram, Morgan and I sound like fucking Boutros Boutros-Ghali and Ban Ki Moon or some shit.)

Nov 20, 2018

A story about Rick Velardo. 

Oct 23, 2018

In today's episode, we talk about power lifting, the bizarre contradictions of self-knowledge, and most importantly, how Aaron Sorkin deserves more credit. 

Sep 11, 2018

An experiment in the spirit of democracy. 

Jul 24, 2018 - Phoebe Bridgers, Noah Gunderson "Killer + The Sound."

We're back to finish up our discussion of the GOAT album, Lifted Or The Story Is In The Soil, Keep Your Ear To The Ground. Today, we are joined by our friend, the filmmaker and artist Paige Mazurek! 

This ep's Spotify Playlists:



Jun 12, 2018

Bad cop and vaguely supportive cop get together to talk about the greatest album of all time (part 1 of 2)!

R.I.P. The Thermals

G.R.I.P Philip Roth, Tom Wolfe

Our House & It's Heart So Savage:

Review of Lifted in the LA Times, August 2002:

Conor Oberst & Jenny Lewis interview each other:


May 8, 2018

Arlo's Coming, a playlist by Christy Little

Special thanks to DWH/WDH, and whoever made that bootleg recording of the Rilo Kiley show in VT circa '05. 

May 1, 2018

We're back with a new episode of TLPZL today, and we're abandoning some old ideas! Fun! 

Think of this as a spiritual sequel to Spring Cleaning. We've got new stuff with old friends like Jon Pernisek and Paul Neafcy, weird found sound, and a meditation on the nature of extreme pain!

Mar 27, 2018

The boys are back to talk about the Desaparecidos album READ MUSIC/SPEAK SPANISH, a landmark record that shaped our political consciousness (We get rambling something fierce a couple of times). We also discuss Titus Andronicus, Justin Timberlake, the MCU, and the birth of Arlo Logan Little, Conor Oberst's newest and biggest fan. Share this podcast with the Bright Eyes fans in your life!

Mar 8, 2018

New episode today! It's a kind of spiritual sequel to Good Question in which we interview Monte Bohanan (@Monte_Bohanan on Twitter) about how to interview people. It's also a meditation on influence and the death of David Bowie. 

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